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Pico accessory shootout (poll)
Nov 20^th, 2012 at 11:45pm

Looking at the accessories available to a Pico is like being in a candystore..

I assume many users are in the same situation as I am, you have a 2- or 4- channel kit with the amp clamps and secondary clips. Then, you feel you would like to expand your toybox a little. When you can not have it all at once, you would like to get some support when deciding what would be the best sequence in upgrading.

So, what do you find to be the best general purpose accessory for the Pico? And why? And let's not discuss money or such, I tend to think that a $100 useless piece is expensive but on the other hand a very useful piece for $1000 might be a bargain.

So, comes down to: What would be the very first (and second, and third.. Cheesy

) piece to buy to your Pico setup?

Candidates are of course the mA clamp, ignition probes and pressure sensors. Or did you find something outside of the Pico range that proved itself to be IT?

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Re: Pico accessory shootout (poll)
Reply #1 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 5:16am

PicoFin wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 11:45pm:

Candidates are of course the mA clamp, ignition probes and pressure sensors

That is pretty much what I trying to do just have the WPS and firstlook left.

I would say get a wps, just seems I'm starting to rely on pressure sensors more and more for diag work.
(I've only got a fluke pv-350 at the moment works well but needs a heap of filtering to get a clear image usable waveform Sad

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Re: Pico accessory shootout (poll)
Reply #2 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 5:22am

I feel that I couldn't live without the Pressure Transducers and FLS (That can be built very inexpensively, compliments of Brandonb "BLS"). I'm still using the DCTI Set but the WPS is on the Wish List. Mick has shown me the real value of the Five Gas in this work TOO, (I didn't realize how much money I had spent on that thing to have it collect dust until participating in that thread). Cry

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crackerclicker Super Nerd Picogroup Offline Elevation 834 ft Posts: 2,358 Watertown Wisconsin USA Gender:	Re: Pico accessory shootout (poll) Reply #3 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 4:35pm PicoFin wrote on Nov 20^th, 2012 at 11:45pm: So, what do you find to be the best general purpose accessory for the Pico? autonerdz picogroup .
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RtOne Super Nerd Picogroup Offline "If We Can't Fix It" - "It Ain't Broke" Posts: 655 Westville, Illinois Illinois USA Gender:	Re: Pico accessory shootout (poll) Reply #4 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 5:47pm crackerclicker wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 4:35pm: autonerdz picogroup And the Prize goes to crackerclicker For the Only Correct Answer, That should be the No. 1 on any LIST. Damn where was my head, Oh Wait I know.
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brandonb Super Nerd Picogroup Offline Posts: 1,414 arizona Arizona USA	Re: Pico accessory shootout (poll) Reply #5 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 7:04pm rtone, did you get your wife to hold the camera , thats some funny stuff there
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sneaky pete Super Nerd Picogroup Offline Posts: 728 Regina Saskatchewan Canada	Re: Pico accessory shootout (poll) Reply #6 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 8:16pm pressure transducer kit would be a number one accessory. I picked up the pressure transducer and wps. then bought the coil on plug extensions and mix master. I want the micro amp clamp but can't justify the price yet.
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Re: Pico accessory shootout (poll)
Reply #7 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 10:29pm

RtOne wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 5:47pm:

crackerclicker wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 4:35pm:

autonerdz picogroup

And the Prize goes to crackerclicker Smiley

For the Only Correct Answer, That should be the No. 1 on any LIST. Damn where was my head, Oh Wait I know.

Now, that's a true "heads up" Grin

PS I want to be a little picky, the podium gif has positions 2 and 4 wrong way around

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Erik_1940 Guru Member Picogroup Offline Elevation 25 ft Posts: 406 California California USA Gender:	Re: Pico accessory shootout (poll) Reply #8 - Nov 21^st, 2012 at 10:55pm Anthony Lamb wrote on Nov 21^st, 2012 at 5:16am: I would say get a wps, just seems I'm starting to rely on pressure sensors more and more for diag work. Thats is my number one in the list WPS500 I wanna be able to hang with the big guys
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Erik_1940 Guru Member Picogroup Offline Elevation 25 ft Posts: 406 California California USA Gender:	Re: Pico accessory shootout (poll) Reply #9 - Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 11:16pm I dont see too many post of Nerdz using the COP probe ot the CAN Test Box.
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Re: Pico accessory shootout (poll)
Reply #10 - Dec 20^th, 2012 at 9:40pm

Erik_1940 wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2012 at 11:16pm:

I dont see too many post of Nerdz using the COP probe ot the CAN Test Box.

We have merely one single company selling Pico on the automotive field, and when I speaked to the salesman he said his experience with the COP probe is that you see if you have ignition or not, but that it is not getting even close to the standard secondary clips if you bother to hook them up. Any comments on this?

Yeah, the CAN test box. Not that it would not be a useful device when you need to check the CAN bus, but how often is that? In the classes I took, they talked about the "usual CAN faults" as short to ground, short to negative, no communications, bad communications. I'm not in any way an expert on CAN, but what I've been working on has never had a CAN fault. I've seen interference in the CAN bus, but every time due to external factors. Comments on this too, please.

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Re: Pico accessory shootout (poll)
Reply #11 - Dec 21^st, 2012 at 12:02am

PicoFin wrote on Dec 20^th, 2012 at 9:40pm:

eah, the CAN test box. Not that it would not be a useful device when you need to check the CAN bus, but how often is that?

Normally use the can test box for a scanner extension and also is a quick way to see if pin 16 has good B + voltage without getting under the dash.
Has saved a lot of time in the past as a quick check.

I have been thinking, providing the power is good to pin 16 you could do a relative compression check without opening the bonnet Undecided

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PicoFin wrote on Dec 20^th, 2012 at 9:40pm:

We have merely one single company selling Pico on the automotive field, and when I speaked to the salesman he said his experience with the COP probe is that you see if you have ignition or not, but that it is not getting even close to the standard secondary clips if you bother to hook them up. Any comments on this?

I normally use it as a quick sync probe.
It can be used like the secondary leads but you won't have a accurate kV, because normally you use the 100mV scale to pick up the the very little magnetic field that some of COP's because they are so well insulated dose take a little time to get a decent signal by moving the probe around.

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Tom Roberts Autonerdz Administrator Picogroup Offline Autonerdz Founder Posts: 8,595 Olympia Washington USA Gender:	Re: Pico accessory shootout (poll) Reply #12 - Dec 21^st, 2012 at 8:16am Another CAN Box discussion here: http://www.autonerdz.com/cgi/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1271904019/10#10
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Brad H Super Nerd Offline Elevation 367 metres Posts: 1,115 Kalgoorlie Western Australia Australia Gender:	Re: Pico accessory shootout (poll) Reply #13 - Dec 21^st, 2012 at 4:47pm New coloured Pico leads CAN test box *WPS 500
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Drjekl Senior Member Picogroup Offline I'm an Autonerd Posts: 157 Paraparaumu New Zealand Gender:	Re: Pico accessory shootout (poll) Reply #14 - Dec 21^st, 2012 at 11:05pm i bought the deluxe kit, those coloured leads are handy, one down side is the blue and the red leads get a hammering. I got a WPS, absolutely awesome tool, great to se whats going on, i made a FLS again, awesome idea. Im looking at getting the lo amp prode also. Then ill have all the gear and still no idea....
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